Thinking of going engine driven - OKCMINIS

Planterspnut · #1 07-20-2010, 10:27 PM

Something went nuts in the wiring to my comps today where one wouldn't shut off with the ignotion shut off. So I started thinking about kissing my AC goodbye and converting it to a engine driven set up.

Any thoughts and downfalls I need to know about?

And does anyone have pics or know of websites with more info on the swap.

and please no smart ass replies, just looking for info.

hardhitta71194 · #2 07-20-2010, 10:46 PM

My friend has an engine driven and still has his A/C. Actually his last two trucks were like that. I don't know much about engine drivens but he makes his out of A/C comps outta old vehicles and makes his own brackets and shit, so it really don't cost him nothing.

ib2loud · #3 07-20-2010, 11:08 PM

The factory A/C compressor isn't designed for an on board air setup. You need to get the brackets that adapt a york compressor onto your motor. You should be able to do this and keep your factory A/C. You can find more info at www.onboardair.com

jarodw05 · #4 07-20-2010, 11:26 PM

i had an engine driven on my 93 fullsize and still had ac

Planterspnut · #5 07-20-2010, 11:28 PM

Well, I had a buddy tell me that he can do it with the one on my 4.3 vortec fullsize chevy. He was saying that his works great and gets 0 to 200 in like a minute or so..

But this is why I'm asking questions... Just wanting to find any info possible or down falls to this.

And on onboardair.com, I didnt see a listing for my model.

nacho · #6 07-20-2010, 11:30 PM

I dont know much bout em but heard that there the way to go!! Heard it airs up much faster and more reliable then a normal comp!! But Im not sure like I said dont have a lot of knoledge on em!!

dragthatshit666 · #7 07-20-2010, 11:31 PM

i only use yorks onmy vehicles and try to push the yorks on customer builds as much as i can

Planterspnut · #8 07-20-2010, 11:32 PM

For those who have both, how much did it all run because if it's gonna cost an ass load to do, then I'll just buy a 480 dual pack and not worry about it.

hardhitta71194 · #9 07-20-2010, 11:32 PM

I like my dual 444s alot, might check them out on the internet man.

nacho · #10 07-20-2010, 11:34 PM

I got dual 480s and like em but i been thinin bout addin an engine driven also!! I know Burk runs both and has an air chuck on his tank... Which is a smart idea never get stuck...

Planterspnut · #11 07-20-2010, 11:38 PM

I got the 380s now and they are slow as hell filling 2 5-gallons to 160 just to get the truck out of my driveway. It's taking like 20 minutes to build air from 0. And yes I have alot of leaks to find cuz the tanks wont hold that long as of now.

nacho · #12 07-20-2010, 11:39 PM

well leaks are a big prob but thats a lot of air space to fill up and 380s are kinda slow!! I think

jarodw05 · #13 07-20-2010, 11:50 PM

mine was on my truck when i bought it so im not sure on cost but it aired up wayyyyy faster than any vehicle i have had with regular comps

dragthatshit666 · #14 07-20-2010, 11:59 PM

of all the ones i have installed if you buy a york from a salvage yard youll have about 60-75 in it installed and running if you do it yourself

Planterspnut · #15 07-21-2010, 12:16 AM

It's the serpentine belt and the more space needed is what I dont know about. not much of a fab guy when it comes to making brackets and such.

littleryan · #16 07-21-2010, 12:46 AM

I've been looking a lot into doing this kind of thing myself..
As far as using A/C compressor for air management, it can be done. A lot of the Jeep guys do this and there are tons of articles on how to do so.

Basically what the York compressors have over the A/C conversion is that they are built for it and they keep themselves self lubricated. If you convert an A/C compressor over to air you are taking out the lubrication factor which the free-on does in a normal A/C system. So to keep the system lubricated you have to use an in-line oiler on the intake of the compressor and use a water-oil separator on the output before the tank(which people use with electric compressors).

As far as having the system kick on and off, you will just have to use a pressure switch on the tank and wire it with a relay to the A/C compressor to kick it on and off so it doesn't blow up.

It's something I've been wanting to try on my own, if I get around to it.. I already have 2 480's and they work great... but I have more important things to get going(like my v8 running lol)

AlwaysStunting · #17 07-21-2010, 12:55 AM

http://www.streetsource.com/forum/to...=89708&page=-2
heres some more info on them

one low fullsize · #18 07-21-2010, 01:02 AM

heres mine its not the hotest looking set up but im happy with it for now....go down about half way i have pics of the comp and the bracketsn hell its even right next to my a.c

http://www.okcminis.com/showthread.php?t=2083&page=2

ib2loud · #19 07-21-2010, 01:04 AM

You could use your factory A/C compressor but it's not made for an open loop system so it will eventually fail and will require a lot more maintenance than a york compressor which has a sump to keep everything lubricated in an open system.

I had one on my 91 and I pieced it all together before they were real popular and I think I ended up spending about $600 on the setup. If I remember right, they put out about the same CFM as 18 or so normal air compressors, give or take. It would fill my 12 gallon tank in about a minute. They do still require a bit of maintenance as far as checking the oil and putting more in when needed. You will also want a long leader hose because the air coming from the head of the compressor is very hot and will melt anything it touches.

Planterspnut · #20 07-21-2010, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleryan

I've been looking a lot into doing this kind of thing myself..
As far as using A/C compressor for air management, it can be done. A lot of the Jeep guys do this and there are tons of articles on how to do so.

Basically what the York compressors have over the A/C conversion is that they are built for it and they keep themselves self lubricated. If you convert an A/C compressor over to air you are taking out the lubrication factor which the free-on does in a normal A/C system. So to keep the system lubricated you have to use an in-line oiler on the intake of the compressor and use a water-oil separator on the output before the tank(which people use with electric compressors).

As far as having the system kick on and off, you will just have to use a pressure switch on the tank and wire it with a relay to the A/C compressor to kick it on and off so it doesn't blow up.

It's something I've been wanting to try on my own, if I get around to it.. I already have 2 480's and they work great... but I have more important things to get going(like my v8 running lol)

Yeah this is how he explained it to me. I guess I can go ahead and try it and if something fails, then just convert back to ac and runs my comps again. I wish nitrogen wasn't so damn high, I would just run it all the time. lol! If I knew I could get away with filling the bottles myself at work with out getting fired!!

one low fullsize · #21 07-21-2010, 02:13 AM

yeah my bad my lap tops a dic some times lets try again shall we

http://www.okcminis.com/showthread.php?t=2083&page=2

one low fullsize · #22 07-21-2010, 02:16 AM

hmm it works on my screen. 2nd page half way down

Planterspnut · #23 07-21-2010, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one low fullsize

yeah my bad my lap tops a dic some times lets try again shall we

http://www.okcminis.com/showthread.php?t=2083&page=2

Yeah it showed the link on mine too... Thanks for the pics..

one low fullsize · #24 07-21-2010, 03:27 AM

i have all the specs for that comp on my other lap top if needed i can get em

okcderek · #25 07-21-2010, 05:14 AM

Either spend the money for the EDC from Airlift which is a York 209 or buy you a York 210 and make your own kit. Don't sacrifice you A/C for a compressor...that's stupid, especially when you have more than enough room for both. Serpentine belt is no big deal, just get a longer one. Most places make a kit for half ton Chevy..here are some links to help ya. You can piece a kit together for fairly cheap, the Airlift kits are expensive......but for someone that doesnt know much about them, they come w/ everything you will need. I have one on my dually and its been on there for close to 3yrs w/ no problems. I have a new York 210 that I want to upgrade to sometime soon. But going to require a new mounting bracket cause it is somewhat bigger than the 209 York. I promise, once you get an EDC all lined out on your truck w/ A/C..........you'll wonder why anyone runs electric compressors. The only way I would want an electric compressor, is for an emergency back up compressor.

http://www.gmfullsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107722

http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-26710-K.htm